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Hello Friends,

This is an interview that has literally been years in the making. I have had Soraya Chemaly's book, Rage Becomes Her by the side of my desk since 2018 and continue to go back to for a source of wisdom and support. In this conversation, Soraya and I get into into the problems of a patriarchal society, how women are not allowed to express their anger, the pushback that came from the Me Too movement, the differences between Gen X and Gen Z gender and sexuality roles, and most importantly how resilience needs to be rebranded.

I have long since been frustrated by the cultural restrictions on women expressing any of the ‘red’ feelings on the feeling wheel, without them being wrapped up with a pretty little bow.

Soraya is a badass woman who’s new book, The Resilience Myth, just came out, she has also raised twins so as a fellow twin Mama,I have a deep respect not only for her work in the world but her work as a mother.  

You can listen to the episode below or watch the video above but either way, please let me know your thoughts on this episode in the comments below.

Keep having meaningful conversations….

Love,

Amanda X

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IN THIS EPISODE:

  • [1:04] Discussion of what changes for women in the last five years

  • [4:59] Soraya points out that some white women protected men during the ME TOO movement, and men should not have been silent

  • [13:19] Men need to be involved in the changes because they hold the power and discussion of Gen X men

  • [19:16] Who are the role models for young men

  • [24:28] Fighting for women’s freedom of expression

  • [31:48] How can a woman express her rage and the difference between how men can express their rage

  • [35:18] How marriage in California informs the tax code and affects the individual

  • [38:03] Discussion of a global Gallup study showing ten years where women’s anger escalated

  • [43:54] Soraya’s new book about resilience and how we need to accept help: The Resilience Myth


KEY TAKEAWAYS:

  • Women are the most marginalized during epidemics because they don’t have access to resources like health care and other necessities.

  • Men should have spoken up for women during the ME TOO movement. They knew the problem but hid in the boardroom and were silent.

  • If a girl is assertive, she risks being regarded as rude. If you are socialized to understand that you will be punished for expressing your thoughts, then you soften the blow by signaling femininity.


More from Soraya Chemaly:

Book: The Resilience Myth 
Book: Rage Becomes Her: The Power of Women's Anger
Soraya Chemaly Instagram
Soraya Chemaly X (Twitter)
Soraya Chemaly Website

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